Here the politicians are so far away from what the Australians really want. Been here 37 years. It goes without saying that while your vote may feel meaningless, your participation is still guaranteed in our particular democratic setup if you're enrolled – - ie, where everyone in an electorate (no matter for whom they voted – and we have anonymous voting for a reason if you want to suck up to your local member for any single issue) is entitled to get their sitting member to listen to them and to at times even individually move to assist them.It's the kind of setup that Egypt's latest leader got badly wrong when he claimed he only had to fulfil the wishes of the majority that voted for his party – in fact tried to ram his legislation through by decree and blocking.They still haven't had enough practice at being local reps after so many years of army rule. However, should you choose the latter, be prepared for punishment (and it is that punishment that is being queried here). Politicians are sociopaths who aren't worth a minute of my time. If you are enrolled and don't vote you get a fine as they will state what I have posted .

To my understanding, since you are not compelled to do the action it is not considered compulsory.Which is a good thing, because being compelled to sign an application for anything would be a fairly serious crime if it happened. Well, you're going to have to come to terms with the way this country works, and being on the electoral roll is part of it. I was pissed off as I know that sometime in the future. I've moved again in the last 12 months and didn't even need to change any electorate details, I'm automatically up to day.Go back and read my previous comment and in 1998 that wasn't the case. Or people who have served in the Defence force – that will earn them the right to vote too! I`m 43, have not enrolled to vote, and obviously have never voted, but maybe some day I may change my mind. Wrote back to say I was jehovah witness and no questions asked. After 23 years of managing to remain off the electoral roll the BASTARDS.

The reality is not much different to this fantasy, "President of the Imperial Galactic Government. http://www.aec.gov.au/faqs/voting_australia.htm. But if it's compulsory, then there is no choice in filling it out or not. go to the polling station just to get your name ticked off and walk right out again. Apathy?

By all means talk about the merits of it. All major decisions are decided by political sponsors (corporate interests). perhaps they'll eventually see something is 'a miss' when the electoral roll and the police or DOB have missing people, in one but not the other. Please do not just accept that crime being forced upon yourself, you make it harder for other victims to fight back.You certainly have every right to be part of any group and take part in their process but if they are threatening some type of legal or financial consequences if you choose not to then that group is a noxious entity you should not be a part of. Well that's a bit funny, their the easiest ones to get out of, my dad goes "camping" in Katoomba every council election and always gets away with it. So, think about it, do you want to sign the contract as is? no difference). You will get fined about $20 if you are on the electoral roll and don't bother turning up at the polling booth. I'm not keen on any of the parties, because on all the major issues, they all kowtow to either the Yanks or the big end of town. I recently changed address and received a letter saying that I am now enrolled? So really, if you never voted and paid the $20 fine each election, it would hardly break the bank :). Usually yes lol, Thats what sheriffs spend there time doing. Informal votes more generally at a commonwealth election usually hover around 5%, but no assumption can be made as to whether those were protest, otherwise intentional or not.

Do they fine if you're older than 18 and decide to enroll?

I hope that you can afford it. If the elector pays to the DRO the $20 penalty for failing to vote, then the matter ends there. How do I return my form to the AEC? Makes you don't even want to bother voting. Ց/���v2�׏��HS���/gK��y����3�#N()EU����+��W��(�\�|3,ޖ���?�j>E��ɂIF>i�l�|��rϞ�A���֯*D���GP��I$Y��!�0��͍6�6Sm��. "The AEC has found from experience that pencils are the most reliable implements for marking ballot papers. You are not required to take part but if you choose to do so and are too lazy to follow your AEC regulations they can give you any fee they feel like, you agreed to act under those guidelines. You certainly should not be enrolled to vote with the invading forces if you do, that would be a weird conflict of interest. What a joke. I still do it though.Once I copped a fine for a paperwork stuff up. I'm surprised how easy it is not to vote. Your enrolment will be confirmed in writing after 28 days. Maybe later I will change my mind but I don't want to lock myself in to vote every election yet. Debateable. "It's interesting because young people are often the swing votes in elections. If the details are incorrect, you have 28 days to let us know. what would happen if I moved home and got a letter from the AEC or state equivalent. You slot your piece of paper in and feel like you contributed to making a real difference?The democratic process is a farce that has had its critics since ancient Athens. Well, my eighteen year old daughter received a letter a couple of months ago, telling her she was enrolled to vote. choosing not to vote in some sort of deluded belief that it will make any kind of difference. Technically I should of been voting for 7 years now. I received a Letter stating that I had been enrolled. What happens if I didn't vote?
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And as for that tired argument that if you don't vote, you can't complain about the government, as a person who votes when I choose to, you can rack off. My political views have changed since then, but now I am a Libertarian and there is no LDP members in my electorate. Keep refusing and eventually you will go to prison for refusing to vote, as it's compulsory and illegal not to. These criminals must be stopped.

After reading all the comments on this topic talking about the lines. A few are blank. It then becomes a requirement not a right! I had lost my medicare card and I went to report it and I applied for a new medicare card. But I am not getting fined for not voting Tony Abbott and Julia Gillard. My decision not to re-enrol is a deliberate political act.

Unfortunately, I suspect it works the other way. And quite frankly after doing two jury services, there is no way I would want half of those people determining my fate. So pissed off right now!!! "The AEC also requires you to enrol at an address you've lived at for 30 days, so you need to be confident you have lived at a location for that time," he said. I wish I had done the same as them. So basically, "you can enrol if you want, but we don't really care if you don't", it's silly... this year the law changed to allow the electoral commission to use other forms of identification ( medicare, bank, tax, drivers licence) to find you.
Here the politicians are so far away from what the Australians really want. Been here 37 years. It goes without saying that while your vote may feel meaningless, your participation is still guaranteed in our particular democratic setup if you're enrolled – - ie, where everyone in an electorate (no matter for whom they voted – and we have anonymous voting for a reason if you want to suck up to your local member for any single issue) is entitled to get their sitting member to listen to them and to at times even individually move to assist them.It's the kind of setup that Egypt's latest leader got badly wrong when he claimed he only had to fulfil the wishes of the majority that voted for his party – in fact tried to ram his legislation through by decree and blocking.They still haven't had enough practice at being local reps after so many years of army rule. However, should you choose the latter, be prepared for punishment (and it is that punishment that is being queried here). Politicians are sociopaths who aren't worth a minute of my time. If you are enrolled and don't vote you get a fine as they will state what I have posted .

To my understanding, since you are not compelled to do the action it is not considered compulsory.Which is a good thing, because being compelled to sign an application for anything would be a fairly serious crime if it happened. Well, you're going to have to come to terms with the way this country works, and being on the electoral roll is part of it. I was pissed off as I know that sometime in the future. I've moved again in the last 12 months and didn't even need to change any electorate details, I'm automatically up to day.Go back and read my previous comment and in 1998 that wasn't the case. Or people who have served in the Defence force – that will earn them the right to vote too! I`m 43, have not enrolled to vote, and obviously have never voted, but maybe some day I may change my mind. Wrote back to say I was jehovah witness and no questions asked. After 23 years of managing to remain off the electoral roll the BASTARDS.

The reality is not much different to this fantasy, "President of the Imperial Galactic Government. http://www.aec.gov.au/faqs/voting_australia.htm. But if it's compulsory, then there is no choice in filling it out or not. go to the polling station just to get your name ticked off and walk right out again. Apathy?

By all means talk about the merits of it. All major decisions are decided by political sponsors (corporate interests). perhaps they'll eventually see something is 'a miss' when the electoral roll and the police or DOB have missing people, in one but not the other. Please do not just accept that crime being forced upon yourself, you make it harder for other victims to fight back.You certainly have every right to be part of any group and take part in their process but if they are threatening some type of legal or financial consequences if you choose not to then that group is a noxious entity you should not be a part of. Well that's a bit funny, their the easiest ones to get out of, my dad goes "camping" in Katoomba every council election and always gets away with it. So, think about it, do you want to sign the contract as is? no difference). You will get fined about $20 if you are on the electoral roll and don't bother turning up at the polling booth. I'm not keen on any of the parties, because on all the major issues, they all kowtow to either the Yanks or the big end of town. I recently changed address and received a letter saying that I am now enrolled? So really, if you never voted and paid the $20 fine each election, it would hardly break the bank :). Usually yes lol, Thats what sheriffs spend there time doing. Informal votes more generally at a commonwealth election usually hover around 5%, but no assumption can be made as to whether those were protest, otherwise intentional or not.

Do they fine if you're older than 18 and decide to enroll?

I hope that you can afford it. If the elector pays to the DRO the $20 penalty for failing to vote, then the matter ends there. How do I return my form to the AEC? Makes you don't even want to bother voting. Ց/���v2�׏��HS���/gK��y����3�#N()EU����+��W��(�\�|3,ޖ���?�j>E��ɂIF>i�l�|��rϞ�A���֯*D���GP��I$Y��!�0��͍6�6Sm��. "The AEC has found from experience that pencils are the most reliable implements for marking ballot papers. You are not required to take part but if you choose to do so and are too lazy to follow your AEC regulations they can give you any fee they feel like, you agreed to act under those guidelines. You certainly should not be enrolled to vote with the invading forces if you do, that would be a weird conflict of interest. What a joke. I still do it though.Once I copped a fine for a paperwork stuff up. I'm surprised how easy it is not to vote. Your enrolment will be confirmed in writing after 28 days. Maybe later I will change my mind but I don't want to lock myself in to vote every election yet. Debateable. "It's interesting because young people are often the swing votes in elections. If the details are incorrect, you have 28 days to let us know. what would happen if I moved home and got a letter from the AEC or state equivalent. You slot your piece of paper in and feel like you contributed to making a real difference?The democratic process is a farce that has had its critics since ancient Athens. Well, my eighteen year old daughter received a letter a couple of months ago, telling her she was enrolled to vote. choosing not to vote in some sort of deluded belief that it will make any kind of difference. Technically I should of been voting for 7 years now. I received a Letter stating that I had been enrolled. What happens if I didn't vote?

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